I don't trust our government either, but virtually all of the evidence was lined up from intel service to service, outside of public speeches from the anti-war nations trying to sell their case. Massive failure, and much like the banks, nobody wants to examine how it happened or, God forbid, fix anything, just throw a little partisan blame around and pretend like it's all one party's fault and move on.

Fauxcahontas/Spartacus 2020

• wow - the potato car,  08-26-2009 06:07 (Views: 1572; Replies: 54)
• I swear, politics reminds me of college sports - pooka,  08-26-2009 15:24 (Views: 1505)
• Seems more High School to me. [nt] - Phred,  08-26-2009 15:39 (Views: 1453)
• only because you're too close to it, baseball fan! [nt] - pooka,  08-26-2009 15:45 (Views: 1425)
• Oh, snap! Phred got told! [nt] - Phred,  08-26-2009 15:46 (Views: 1525)
• Well when the story is written ... - Antoine Doinel,  08-26-2009 12:51 (Views: 1469)
• re: - Glenn,  08-26-2009 14:35 (Views: 1430)
• One has to wonder sometimes if Senators could be lied to by CIA. [nt] - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 16:33 (Views: 1405)
• One also has to wonder how the CIA infiltrated UK, FR, RU, DE, CN intel so effectively. [nt] - Phred,  08-26-2009 16:42 (Views: 1463)
• I don't recall the French, Chinese, and Russians invading and toppling Saddam. [nt] - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 16:49 (Views: 1880)
• So invasion is the only course of action if you suspect WMDs, among many other... - Phred,  08-26-2009 16:54 (Views: 1440)
• Duh, you don't take out your best customer [nt] - Glenn,  08-26-2009 16:52 (Views: 1423)
• Maybe that's why we didn't invade Saudi instead. Oops. [nt] - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 17:09 (Views: 1435)
• Well, no real reason too at the moment [nt] - Glenn,  08-26-2009 17:32 (Views: 1477)
• I think he means that 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers were Saudi.[nt] - Paul,  08-26-2009 17:36 (Views: 1450)
• I'm curious how that relates to the CIA supposedly lying.... - Phred,  08-26-2009 17:43 (Views: 1687)
• /shrug, don't GAF. Just clarifying what I think WJ meant.[nt] - Paul,  08-26-2009 17:45 (Views: 1510)
• Yes, the assumption was that Iraq was tied to 9-11, hence, the invasion... - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 17:52 (Views: 1589)
• Yes, hard to believe. Too bad there's no way to research that fact. *shrug* [nt] - Phred,  08-26-2009 17:59 (Views: 1382)
• and the time machine that made the former administration have the same view [nt] - Glenn,  08-26-2009 17:44 (Views: 1427)
• The case for WMD was always a British/American lie.... - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 17:58 (Views: 1478)
• So your Nissan runs on good feelings? - Glenn,  08-26-2009 18:28 (Views: 1506)
• Incorrect. The French, Germans, and Russians agreed they had the same capability. - Phred,  08-26-2009 18:00 (Views: 1450)
• I will remind you that intelligence failures involve ... - Antoine Doinel,  08-26-2009 20:44 (Views: 1477)
• Your red herring about capability overestimation was slapped down last time, chief. - Phred,  08-26-2009 20:48 (Views: 1796)
• Not only them... - Glenn,  08-26-2009 18:42 (Views: 1494)
• The French, Germans, and Russians went on record saying there was no proof.... - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 18:29 (Views: 1682)
• I know that I trust governments to always tell the truth. - Phred,  08-26-2009 19:34 (Views: 1529)
• There lies the rub.... - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 20:23 (Views: 1579)
• No, I don't engage in the Pelosi-Hoyer tactic of calling dissenters un-American. - Phred,  08-26-2009 20:29 (Views: 1492)
• I'm not assigning blame to one party... - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 21:48 (Views: 1498)
• I agree with the bulk of that.... - Phred,  08-26-2009 21:55 (Views: 1502)
• There are decades long cease-fire issues with NK, but, we didn't invade. [nt] - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 22:34 (Views: 1471)
• Yup. I'm not defending the decision.... - Phred,  08-26-2009 22:50 (Views: 1569)
• Well "Christians" blew up a building in OK, I didn't start hating the Vatacian! [nt] - Glenn,  08-26-2009 17:42 (Views: 1421)
• We don't have large military bases in the Vatican either. [nt] - Willie Joker,  08-26-2009 17:45 (Views: 1454)
• We didn't in Saudi until they asked us to be there. IIRC [nt] - Glenn,  08-26-2009 18:29 (Views: 1353)
• He didn't vote against the war? But go ahead ... - Antoine Doinel,  08-26-2009 15:04 (Views: 1415)
• Oooh, I finally found it... - tenneck,  08-26-2009 17:35 (Views: 1549)
• OK. I'll try. He left a woman to slowly suffocate in a car for 4 hours... - tenneck,  08-26-2009 17:08 (Views: 1487)
• WTF did he do so well? - Glenn,  08-26-2009 15:16 (Views: 1537)
• Health care, civil rights, northern Ireland resolution, minimum wage ... - Antoine Doinel,  08-26-2009 16:21 (Views: 1492)
• so - Ordeith,  08-26-2009 16:29 (Views: 1446)
• wonderful description of republicans by the way. ;) [nt] - darth maynard,  08-26-2009 20:36 (Views: 1476)
• Good answers :) [nt] - Glenn,  08-26-2009 16:38 (Views: 1470)
• Not everyone has your gift of eloquence. - Phred,  08-26-2009 15:10 (Views: 1580)
• The lion of the senate rides off in an Olds Delmont to his reward. Chivas lay-offs begin [nt] - SlartiBartFast,  08-26-2009 08:14 (Views: 1544)
• Don't stoop to Cat's level when political figures die. [nt] - Phred,  08-26-2009 13:38 (Views: 1580)
• Regretted writing it the instant I posted it. Decided not to "memory hole" it though. [nt] - SlartiBartFast,  08-26-2009 16:06 (Views: 1943)
• Why? Did you kill him? Then what are you sorry for? [nt] - tenneck,  08-26-2009 17:11 (Views: 1419)
• Pretty classy.[nt] - Paul,  08-26-2009 09:31 (Views: 1467)
• After you`ve left a woman to slowly drown while you try and figure out how to... - tenneck,  08-26-2009 11:58 (Views: 1561)
• I see. So the Scotch quip was merely an expression of outrage over her death? - Paul,  08-26-2009 12:41 (Views: 1577)
• Well, you seem to set a higher standard for Slarti than TK, just MHO.[nt] - tenneck,  08-26-2009 14:49 (Views: 1789)
• Which you are of course entitled to.[nt] - Paul,  08-26-2009 15:08 (Views: 1492)

 

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