No, I don't engage in the Pelosi-Hoyer tactic of calling dissenters un-American.

No, I don't engage in the Pelosi-Hoyer tactic of calling dissenters un-American......
By: Phred (Moderators; 60975)
Posted on: 08-26-2009 20:29.
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I don't trust our government either, but virtually all of the evidence was lined up from intel service to service, outside of public speeches from the anti-war nations trying to sell their case. Massive failure, and much like the banks, nobody wants to examine how it happened or, God forbid, fix anything, just throw a little partisan blame around and pretend like it's all one party's fault and move on.

Fauxcahontas/Spartacus 2020

wow - the potato car, 08-26-2009 06:07 (Views: 1557; Replies: 54)

I swear, politics reminds me of college sports - pooka, 08-26-2009 15:24 (Views: 1488)

Seems more High School to me. [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 15:39 (Views: 1438)

only because you're too close to it, baseball fan! [nt] - pooka, 08-26-2009 15:45 (Views: 1404)

Oh, snap! Phred got told! [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 15:46 (Views: 1510)

Well when the story is written ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 12:51 (Views: 1452)

re: - Glenn, 08-26-2009 14:35 (Views: 1414)

One has to wonder sometimes if Senators could be lied to by CIA. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 16:33 (Views: 1393)

One also has to wonder how the CIA infiltrated UK, FR, RU, DE, CN intel so effectively. [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 16:42 (Views: 1449)

I don't recall the French, Chinese, and Russians invading and toppling Saddam. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 16:49 (Views: 1863)

So invasion is the only course of action if you suspect WMDs, among many other... - Phred, 08-26-2009 16:54 (Views: 1427)

Duh, you don't take out your best customer [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 16:52 (Views: 1413)

Maybe that's why we didn't invade Saudi instead. Oops. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:09 (Views: 1419)

Well, no real reason too at the moment [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 17:32 (Views: 1462)

I think he means that 15 of the 19 9-11 hijackers were Saudi.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 17:36 (Views: 1434)

I'm curious how that relates to the CIA supposedly lying.... - Phred, 08-26-2009 17:43 (Views: 1672)

/shrug, don't GAF. Just clarifying what I think WJ meant.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 17:45 (Views: 1493)

Yes, the assumption was that Iraq was tied to 9-11, hence, the invasion... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:52 (Views: 1573)

Yes, hard to believe. Too bad there's no way to research that fact. *shrug* [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 17:59 (Views: 1370)

and the time machine that made the former administration have the same view [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 17:44 (Views: 1412)

The case for WMD was always a British/American lie.... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:58 (Views: 1463)

So your Nissan runs on good feelings? - Glenn, 08-26-2009 18:28 (Views: 1493)

Incorrect. The French, Germans, and Russians agreed they had the same capability. - Phred, 08-26-2009 18:00 (Views: 1436)

I will remind you that intelligence failures involve ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 20:44 (Views: 1459)

Your red herring about capability overestimation was slapped down last time, chief. - Phred, 08-26-2009 20:48 (Views: 1774)

Not only them... - Glenn, 08-26-2009 18:42 (Views: 1478)

The French, Germans, and Russians went on record saying there was no proof.... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 18:29 (Views: 1665)

I know that I trust governments to always tell the truth. - Phred, 08-26-2009 19:34 (Views: 1513)

There lies the rub.... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 20:23 (Views: 1560)

No, I don't engage in the Pelosi-Hoyer tactic of calling dissenters un-American. - Phred, 08-26-2009 20:29 (Views: 1476)

I'm not assigning blame to one party... - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 21:48 (Views: 1480)

I agree with the bulk of that.... - Phred, 08-26-2009 21:55 (Views: 1487)

There are decades long cease-fire issues with NK, but, we didn't invade. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 22:34 (Views: 1442)

Yup. I'm not defending the decision.... - Phred, 08-26-2009 22:50 (Views: 1554)

Well "Christians" blew up a building in OK, I didn't start hating the Vatacian! [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 17:42 (Views: 1408)

We don't have large military bases in the Vatican either. [nt] - Willie Joker, 08-26-2009 17:45 (Views: 1439)

We didn't in Saudi until they asked us to be there. IIRC [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 18:29 (Views: 1338)

He didn't vote against the war? But go ahead ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 15:04 (Views: 1401)

Oooh, I finally found it... - tenneck, 08-26-2009 17:35 (Views: 1532)

OK. I'll try. He left a woman to slowly suffocate in a car for 4 hours... - tenneck, 08-26-2009 17:08 (Views: 1471)

WTF did he do so well? - Glenn, 08-26-2009 15:16 (Views: 1519)

Health care, civil rights, northern Ireland resolution, minimum wage ... - Antoine Doinel, 08-26-2009 16:21 (Views: 1477)

so - Ordeith, 08-26-2009 16:29 (Views: 1433)

wonderful description of republicans by the way. ;) [nt] - darth maynard, 08-26-2009 20:36 (Views: 1456)

Good answers :) [nt] - Glenn, 08-26-2009 16:38 (Views: 1444)

Not everyone has your gift of eloquence. - Phred, 08-26-2009 15:10 (Views: 1562)

The lion of the senate rides off in an Olds Delmont to his reward. Chivas lay-offs begin [nt] - SlartiBartFast, 08-26-2009 08:14 (Views: 1528)

Don't stoop to Cat's level when political figures die. [nt] - Phred, 08-26-2009 13:38 (Views: 1565)

Regretted writing it the instant I posted it. Decided not to "memory hole" it though. [nt] - SlartiBartFast, 08-26-2009 16:06 (Views: 1929)

Why? Did you kill him? Then what are you sorry for? [nt] - tenneck, 08-26-2009 17:11 (Views: 1405)

Pretty classy.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 09:31 (Views: 1434)

After you`ve left a woman to slowly drown while you try and figure out how to... - tenneck, 08-26-2009 11:58 (Views: 1545)

I see. So the Scotch quip was merely an expression of outrage over her death? - Paul, 08-26-2009 12:41 (Views: 1544)

Well, you seem to set a higher standard for Slarti than TK, just MHO.[nt] - tenneck, 08-26-2009 14:49 (Views: 1773)

Which you are of course entitled to.[nt] - Paul, 08-26-2009 15:08 (Views: 1478)

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