Not at all ... my response is pretty pessimistic...

Not at all ... my response is pretty pessimistic........
By: Catfish (The Marxist currently known as Catfish; 47455)
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... first we have to admit that American democracy is a fucking failure and see how we can resolve it.

I'm going to say start by getting the money out of the system but thanks to SCOTUS we now have it enshrined in law that you can buy elections. So we have a job to do.

Again, the Libertarian idea that individual actors will be guided by the market to a resolution seems absurd.

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The "gimme something for nothing" protesters begin their violent streak in SD... - Bender, 11-08-2011 18:24 (Views: 1183; Replies: 45)

Are we sure it wasn't just some off-duty Oakland cops? :P [nt] - Mork, 11-08-2011 21:31 (Views: 1120)

Raiders - Dolts isn't 'til Thursday (hush, hush). They'd rather make the game first. [nt] - Phred, 11-08-2011 22:54 (Views: 1207)

TeaPartyDidIt. [nt] - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 21:48 (Views: 1133)

Vandalism and theft isn't exactly violence. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 19:38 (Views: 1100)

Oh yeah, down at the local uni? Every weekend is "throw shit, piss and blood at vendors" - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 19:42 (Views: 1096)

Money is not speech. Bodily fluids and waste products, however... [nt] - Phred, 11-08-2011 20:18 (Views: 1284)

You're probably not gonna get written up for assault, no. Probably Destruction/Vandalism. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 19:44 (Views: 1181)

The specific statute is here: - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 19:49 (Views: 1087)

Food Carts probably don't qualify as people. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 19:50 (Views: 1191)

Well you are a slick, wiggly mo-fo I'll give you that. - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 20:04 (Views: 1223)

I said that vandalism != violence. Dunno how you assumed that was a ringing endorsement. - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 21:08 (Views: 1179)

Whatever! You LOVE vandalism and want to marry it. [nt] - Mr. Spork, 11-08-2011 21:51 (Views: 1138)

I just wanna know, when Jerry Kane, Byron Williams, and Shawna Forde were killing people.. - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 21:34 (Views: 1213)

Kyle and Vandalism, sittin' in a tree... [nt] - Mr. Spork, 11-08-2011 21:58 (Views: 1158)

Right, because I totally have that M1 and those Beehive rounds. - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 21:56 (Views: 1262)

Well that's not true. I've said several times on this forum that I don't support OWS. - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 22:07 (Views: 1191)

The sky in Kyle's world is Racist [nt] - Ordeith, 11-08-2011 21:59 (Views: 1141)

It's time for the "Gimme an M1 with a rack full of beehive rounds" crowd to begin... - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 19:11 (Views: 1184)

They've been active. No one was worried about "violence" and "violent rhetoric" then. - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 19:41 (Views: 1347)

And we still can't answer a fundamental question ... - Catfish, 11-08-2011 19:06 (Views: 1199)

Bahahaaaaa...better check that rhetostat, Catfish. - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 19:14 (Views: 1119)

oh c'mon Syd... - darth maynard, 11-08-2011 19:21 (Views: 1159)

I know it does but I reached the Invective spawn point before he did so I get to use it.;) [nt] - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 19:38 (Views: 1250)

hehe [nt] - darth maynard, 11-08-2011 19:40 (Views: 1165)

So how do we proceed? Your response seems to be ... - Catfish, 11-08-2011 19:17 (Views: 1145)

Not at all, Cat. I'm talking about sending in the National Guard! M1 *Abrams*. - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 19:36 (Views: 1721)

So how do we proceed? Your response seems to be... - Phred, 11-08-2011 19:23 (Views: 1305)

Not at all ... my response is pretty pessimistic... - Catfish, 11-08-2011 19:28 (Views: 1108)

Well, we can admit or not admit things all day long... - Phred, 11-08-2011 20:06 (Views: 1144)

Just to be fair Cat... - darth maynard, 11-08-2011 19:38 (Views: 1221)

You have to have a goal. An image of what the society should be ... - Catfish, 11-08-2011 20:19 (Views: 1140)

Amen. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 22:03 (Views: 1116)

"We need to get money out of the system". Can't disagree with that. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 19:45 (Views: 1131)

Absolutely, welcome to the Corporate Republic of the United States. [nt] - darth maynard, 11-08-2011 19:52 (Views: 1145)

One might consider that looking to the people who allowed this to happen... - Phred, 11-08-2011 20:24 (Views: 1202)

Well when your choice is entrenched professional Dem vs entrenched professional Rep - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 21:10 (Views: 1213)

That's not my choice. There's usually Lib, P&F, NL, and Green too. [nt] - Phred, 11-08-2011 21:18 (Views: 1155)

Then you're in a better position than I am. - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 21:27 (Views: 1174)

Then vote write-in for your dog. [nt] - Phred, 11-08-2011 21:32 (Views: 1652)

I voted for Suzy Creamcheese, actually. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 11-08-2011 21:38 (Views: 1120)

(well then she got two votes...! see? We agree on some things, sometimes!) - Sydwyndir, 11-08-2011 21:57 (Views: 1185)

See, these are the kind of social ills the OWS movement would fix, and...er...wait... [nt] - Phred, 11-08-2011 18:58 (Views: 1150)

I`d be curious to know about those with Anarchist tendancies participating... - darth maynard, 11-08-2011 18:42 (Views: 1349)

Well, at least authorities have the sense to try to narrow down who to blame... - Mr. Spork, 11-08-2011 18:45 (Views: 1170)

and of course it's apparently all the "unions" fault according to the comments.. [nt] - darth maynard, 11-08-2011 18:37 (Views: 1106)

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