That's a reason, not a justification.[nt]

That's a reason, not a justification.[nt].....
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"None of this troubles the loop. Trump watches and emotes; he excretes and consumes. That a great and greatly conflicted experiment in self-government has come to this—a whole nation trying to talk a shitfaced trust-fund lout into a cab so that he won’t mow down everyone on the sidewalk, and then talking about what a fantastic job he did barfing in the ashtray—is one thing. It’s many things. But none of those things are complicated."

And Mookie. Always. Always do the right thing. - Paul, 03-28-2012 13:24 (Views: 1208; Replies: 82)

He is such a punk. [nt] - Catfish, 03-28-2012 13:31 (Views: 1270)

re: - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:37 (Views: 1185)

Honestly, he should be jailed. Even if it was the right address, what the fuck.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 13:56 (Views: 1586)

not a crime to post an address on twitter.... - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 14:20 (Views: 1567)

If the obvious intent is to incite violence, I dunno. Also interfering with investigation? [nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:32 (Views: 1175)

I think violence has already been incited and all of this is the fallout. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 14:52 (Views: 1145)

I guess we could get into the differences, but they're pretty clear to me. - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:59 (Views: 1181)

Can't agree about "proper investigation". - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 15:11 (Views: 1187)

so let's lynch all the ("White Hispanic") crackers? I don't get it... - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 15:33 (Views: 1181)

In most situations, a black man is his own worst enemy - Glenn, 03-28-2012 17:43 (Views: 1169)

This. - Paul, 03-28-2012 16:23 (Views: 1299)

Yeah. Violence is a cultural thing with black people. Solves the problem, right there. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 15:42 (Views: 1167)

Those are fair points. Still doesn't excuse Spike or other racists.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 15:12 (Views: 1095)

If the system wasnt such an abject failure there probably wouldnt be this type of reaction [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 15:14 (Views: 1271)

That's a reason, not a justification.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 15:17 (Views: 1265)

Failure is justification enough. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 15:24 (Views: 1164)

Calm down, Vladimir... - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 15:52 (Views: 1144)

Revolutionary violence is a necessity. - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 16:02 (Views: 1207)

But our justice system is the ONLY defense against... - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 16:18 (Views: 1147)

Our justice system doesn't defend. It prosecutes. - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 16:27 (Views: 1180)

On history.... - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 16:47 (Views: 1161)

Exchange proletariat with bourgeois and hows that any different then now? [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 17:55 (Views: 1202)

it`s all about power and who has it. - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 18:48 (Views: 1214)

Yet modern Russians remember the USSR fondly and Castro is legitimately popular in Cuba. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:01 (Views: 1135)

Here's a testimony from a Hungarian who lived through the Revolution - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:02 (Views: 1285)

Perhaps you should move to Cuba. - Bean, 03-28-2012 19:10 (Views: 1139)

I'd like to. Most folks that I know who've been enjoyed it. - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:12 (Views: 1176)

I'd like to go... - Glenn, 03-28-2012 20:11 (Views: 1181)

Oh come on - Sycraft, 03-28-2012 17:27 (Views: 1195)

are you responding to my post? - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 17:47 (Views: 1604)

I was mocking Kyle - Sycraft, 03-28-2012 17:53 (Views: 1180)

"generally free, generally doing well" Yeah, lemme know when we get there. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 17:58 (Views: 1162)

I'm gonna quote #fakeWinstonChurchill* here... - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 18:08 (Views: 1144)

Yes, both. Have you ever been to a third world country? [nt] - Bean, 03-28-2012 18:05 (Views: 1193)

You mean the countries that we export soda and chocolate manufacturing too? - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:13 (Views: 1260)

Try one sometime. It might give you a little perspective. - Bean, 03-28-2012 18:18 (Views: 1158)

1> If the country sucks it because of globalization (when we aren't propping up dictators) - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:36 (Views: 1190)

Ok. Done. - Sycraft, 03-28-2012 18:05 (Views: 1192)

Can end hunger with our budget but we prefer to kill brown people. Prosperous and free! [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:14 (Views: 1219)

Robert, just curious...did "we" shoot Trayvon? - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 18:32 (Views: 1122)

Yes. - Sycraft, 03-28-2012 18:30 (Views: 1151)

Go to the MS Delta. 30 minutes from my office. I don't need third world. - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:39 (Views: 1149)

The average American lives in the Mississippi delta without electricity or running water? - Bean, 03-28-2012 18:55 (Views: 1231)

No, you dense mother fucker, I do. - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:59 (Views: 1423)

Technically it's upper middle class. - Bean, 03-28-2012 19:18 (Views: 1164)

Probably did have a more varied upbringing than me. I was dirt fucking poor until my teens - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:23 (Views: 1243)

/Lister [nt] - Ordeith, 03-28-2012 19:01 (Views: 1248)

I don't think fixing it can ever entail letting the system "work itself out". [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 17:53 (Views: 1185)

It's not throwing *all* of it away. They'll probably have some awesome march music. - Phred, 03-28-2012 17:39 (Views: 1137)

C: The one that suggests that maybe we shouldn't throw out the baby with the bathwater... - Paul, 03-28-2012 16:31 (Views: 1207)

The dictatorship of the bourgeois hasn't resulted in millions of deaths and suffering? [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 17:51 (Views: 1167)

Directly attributable, 60,000,000? No.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 18:10 (Views: 1181)

Disagree. On both counts. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:11 (Views: 1239)

That's fine. 60,000,000 deaths in the 20th century, directly attributable to... - Paul, 03-28-2012 18:19 (Views: 1105)

Any causality from any war of imperialism? The slave trade? I could go on. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:35 (Views: 1210)

Directly attributable, 60,000,000. I think I've been clear.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 18:38 (Views: 1153)

I dunno what criteria you're using for "direct attribution" - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 18:57 (Views: 1207)

The fact is, by even the most tangential definitions of "attributable." - Paul, 03-28-2012 19:10 (Views: 1185)

I'm not the one who brought it up. - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:14 (Views: 1239)

nt - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 15:33 (Views: 1127)

I disagree. Upending due process twice isn't going to fix anything. - Paul, 03-28-2012 15:28 (Views: 1249)

Oh, so we have a limit on how often you can upend due process? - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 15:35 (Views: 1161)

Yes, actually. The limit is zero. And don't fucking get shitty with me. - Paul, 03-28-2012 15:42 (Views: 1206)

Theoretical limit is zero. Real world has recently produced one incident. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 17:58 (Views: 1169)

*Legal limit is zero.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 18:19 (Views: 1184)

And when the *Legal system is the one bending that *legal limit? [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 19:00 (Views: 1234)

Justification for what? Hate crime? [nt] - Ordeith, 03-28-2012 15:26 (Views: 1265)

He just wants justice, you freakin' racist pussy ass cracker. - Phred, 03-28-2012 14:04 (Views: 1183)

Why is the shooter being called a "cracker"? - Glenn, 03-28-2012 18:08 (Views: 1192)

No. Shirts?[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:05 (Views: 1112)

The shirts say "Pussy Ass Cracker." - P. Briscoe, 03-28-2012 14:11 (Views: 1235)

Spic is so much more succinct.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:12 (Views: 1223)

Yep. - Phred, 03-28-2012 14:10 (Views: 1239)

Is that getting trademarked too? [nt] - SlartiBartFast, 03-28-2012 17:43 (Views: 1146)

They complain about sterotypes and then they pull this crap..... [nt] - Bender, 03-28-2012 14:18 (Views: 1152)

Yeah. Black people share one single consciousness. Not racist. [nt] - Robert_Wyatt, 03-28-2012 14:53 (Views: 1190)

For the record I know a lot of "THEM" and none of "THEM" own the shirt.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:18 (Views: 1169)

Anyone know the significance of the "S" and "K" being red?[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:14 (Views: 1175)

It is an abbreviation for SKS, believe it or not - Sycraft, 03-28-2012 17:47 (Views: 1209)

Jesus Christ.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 19:10 (Views: 1253)

Jesus.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:11 (Views: 1232)

Actually, could've been even worse if it'd been the right address.[nt] - Paul, 03-28-2012 14:00 (Views: 1633)

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